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Agenda 08/11/2005 ,OF AGENDA SCTIokane SPOKANE VALLEY PLANNING COMMISSION 40Valley REGULAR MEETING August 11, 2005 CALL TO ORDER PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ROLL CALL APPROVAL OF AGENDA APPROVAL OF MINUTES July 14 and July 28, 2005 minutes PUBLIC COMMENT —for members of the Public to speak to the Commission regarding matters NOT on the current agenda. COMMISSION REPORTS ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT COMMISSION BUSINESS New Business — Old Business — Planning Commission Comprehensive Plan deliberations FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER- ADJOURNMENT COMMISSIONERS CITY STAFF Fred Beaulac Marina Sukup, AICP Robert Blum Greg McCormick, AICP John G. Carroll, Vice-Chair Scott Kuhta, AICP David Crosby, Chair Mike Basinger, Assoc. Plnr William Gothmann Deanna Griffith, Admin Gail Kogle Ian Robertson www.spokanevalley.orq Spokane Valley Planning Commission Draft Minutes Council Chambers —City Hall 11707 E. Sprague Ave July 14, 2005 CALL TO ORDER Commissioner Crosby called the meeting to order at 6:04 pm. Staff attending the meeting: Marina Sukup, Director of Community Development, Greg McCormick, Planning Manager, Scott Kuhta, Sr. Planner, Mike Basinger, Associate Planner, Carolbelle Branch Public Information Officer and Deanna Griffith, Administrative Assistant I1. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Commission, audience, and staff recited the Pledge of Allegiance. Ill. ROLL CALL Fred Beaulac—Present Bill Gothmann— Present Bob Blum — Present Gail Kogle—Present John G. Carroll—Present Ian Robertson— Present David Crosby— Present APPROVAL OF AGENDA Commissioner Gothmann moved that the July 14, 2005 agenda be approved as written. Commissioner Robertson seconded the motion. Motion passed unanimously. IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Commissioner Gothmann stated that he had a couple of corrections to the agendas under consideration. June 16 minutes change location to Spokane Nazarene church. Also on page 3, David Roberts' testimony, what are TDR's? Transfer Development Rights and it will be spelled out in the minutes. Changes for the June 22 minutes, should state held at the Community Center. Page 2 David Orahood's testimony line 4 should state "the City should not continue the practice". No changes for the minutes of June 23, 2005 It was moved by Commissioner Robertson to accept all minutes submitted as amended, seconded by Commissioner Blum. Motion passed unanimously. VI. PUBLIC COMMENT Daniel LaVigne, 2603 N. Gary Laurie Ct.; Valley Elks club is on Marrietta. Need to post sign to inform truck drivers that there is not outlet and they can not turn July 14,2005 Planning Commission Minutes Page 1 of 6 Spokane Valley Planning Commission Minutes around. Drivers are constantly driving over yards, getting stuck, destroying property. Mr. LaVigne wants something done about the traffic around his area, now. He fells it can not wait until the plan is done, must be corrected now. VII. COMMISSION REPORTS Commissioner Gothmann reported he attended the City Council meeting on July 12, 2005. The street vacations for Knox and Shannon Ave. both were approved. The appeal of a decision by the Hearing Examiner for the Belleville PUD that does not have direct access to an arterial or collector road, were denied. VIII. ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS Director Sukup reported that Mark Hinshaw, an expert in urban planning would be here for a discussion on July 19, 2005 to discuss Urban Planning and Rethinking Regulations for the 21st Century. We have invited the Planning Commission, City Council as well as the surrounding jurisdictions to attend this informative lecture. VIII. COMMISSION BUSINESS A. OLD BUSINESS: Public Hearing continued from May 26, 2005, on the proposed Storage Tank Ordinance. Director Sukup provided a brief background; based on input received from several sources it has been determined that additional alternatives should be considered. Staff recommends that the public hearing be closed and that no action be taken. Mr. Glen Terry, Irvin Water District, stated he had submitted comments during the public hearing previously and asked to be contacted and involved in the development of the storage tank ordinance as it moves forward. Commissioner Gothmann made a motion to close the public hearing and take no action on the proposed ordinance. Commissioner Robertson seconded the motion which passed unanimously. B. New Business Public Hearing for the Comprehensive Plan. Commissioner Crosby re-opened the Hearing at 6:25 pm Mr. Scott Kuhta gave a brief over view of the Comprehensive Plan. Mr. Kuhta also submitted seven written recommendations for revisions to the proposed Land Use Map. Steve Hormel, 516 S. Barker Rd. Mr. Hormel stated he believes that low density should be changed to no more than 4 houses per acre. UR-3.5 should remain low density and UR-7 should be reclassified as medium density. June 23,2005 Planning Commission Page 2 of 6 Spokane Valley Planning Commission Minutes Chuck Hafner, 4710 S. Woodruff Mr. Hafner, speaking on behalf of the Ponderosa and Rotchford neighborhoods, said that he appreciated all that the Commission has done to help his neighborhood. He stated that, he and his neighbors support the comprehensive plan draft as written. Please consider making the UR-1 Estate Residential Zoning permanent. Andrew Warlock, CLC Associates, 12730 E. Mirabeau Parkway, addressing the Commission on behalf of Dr. Eric Ellingsen, requested that the property that Dr. Ellingsen owns and has built on and the adjacent property be designated as office in the comprehensive plan. Written comments submitted. Dr. Eric Ellingsen, 1215 N. McDonald Rd. Requested that his property be classified as Office. He has the support of neighbors. Written comments submitted. Gary Johnson, 12917 E. Sharp submitted written comment to support the request for office zoning on the parcels requested by Dr. Ellingsen. John Boyd, 4024 S. Forest Meadow Dr. Commercial/business activity in residential neighborhoods needs to be regulated. Supports protection of the river and aquifer. Encourages more emphasis be placed on bicycle transportation. Written comments submitted. Dwight Hume, D J Hume Co., Land Use Consulting Services, 9101 N. Mt. View Lane Mr. Hume represents 3 clients with projects or land in the Spokane Valley. • Harlan Douglass, former Albertsons at Pines and Sprague objects to the change from Regional Commercial to Community Commercial. • Joe Ward who owns property at NE corner of Pines and 3rd, along with property at the corner of 81h and Pines, SE corner, wants an appropriate commercial designation along SR-27. • Union Pacific Railroad property north of Sprague, east of Havana, requests the property be designated Regional Commercial rather than both Regional and Mixed Use. Written comments submitted for all parcels. Glenn Terry, Irvin Water District, resident. Irvin Water District supports the comprehensive plan and appreciates the avenues of communication. Irvin has comments in regard to chapter 2, page 2, public utilities, page 12 2.3.2, 6th paragraph, development of wellhead protection program, which should be coordinated with local providers. Chapter 4 2.4.9, drinking water section, to insure plans are consistent with the comprehensive Plan. Water district plans must be updated every 6 years. He also noted that the District had appealed the Mitigated Determination of Non-Significance (MDNS) for a plant expansion of Arrow Asphalt Plant and has requested that an Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) be required. Written comments submitted. The Commission took a 5 minute break, and reconvened at 7:30 June 23,2005 Planning Commission Page 3 of 6 Spokane Valley Planning Commission Minutes John Konen, Storhauq Engineering, consultant, representing the Goldens and Wesches who own property in 1204 S. Vercler, requests that the Low Density Residential designation be changed to Office. The area around the hospital should permit expansion of medical office and support uses. Kim Golden, 1204 N. Vercler Rd. Part owner of property, would like to have a larger office area around hospital. Written comments submitted. Jan Wesche, 1204 N. Vercler Rd. Part owner of property at this address. Submitted written comment to request the office area around hospital be increased to allow for growth. Written comments submitted F.J. Dullanty, Jr., Represents Appleway Automotive Group Large dealership in the proposed City Center. Requests that the City Center designation be shrunk to a more manageable size. Would like area that is between current lines and requested new lines be reclassified to a City Center Reserve area. The City Center would restrict too heavily the dealership would be considered non-conforming from the beginning. Would like to be involved in the deliberations regarding the plan if possible. Margaret Mortiz, 3420 S. Ridgeview Dr. Already submitted written comment. Her concerns address evacuation plans, flood plain plan around her area. Plan will allow higher densities and which may not be appropriate in all areas, especially where park land has not been reserved. Infrastructure should be in place before development occurs. The area identified as "City Center" may be too large. A broadband. Wi- Fi City Center is possible. Land Use Policy 65 should include requirements to increase accountability including more independent audits and more due diligence. Linda Gerken, 11804 E. Buckeye thanked the Commission for changing the classification to Low Density Residential in her area. She also requested a moratorium on any further modification to View Ranch Estates until Comprehensive Plan can be developed and approved. Space in this area is currently zoned UR-22 and should be returned to UR-3.5. Too much traffic in area now. Written comments submitted. Helen Sargent, 11810 E. Buckeye requested that the area known as View Ranch Estates be changed from current zoning of UR-22 to UR-7. She noted the need for a stop light at Grace and Pines or Buckeye and Pines. Many accidents already in this area and development is increasing traffic. Written comments submitted. Suzette McGoldrick-Edelblute, 2505 S. Timberlane Speaking for herself and her husband Bill Edelblute. They support maximizing open spaces, natural environment, parks, walking paths. Believes there is a lack of parks in the plan. Does not support extending the Sprague/ Appleway couplet. Mary Pollard, 17216 E. Baldwin Disturbed that developer can keep things hidden from citizens until it is too late to object to the total plan. June 23,2005 Planning Commission Page 4 of 6 Spokane Valley Planning Commission Minutes Developer around her home has built a 7 foot dirt mound and the view is blocked. City should consider all aspects of a plan and listen to neighbors input. People are adversely affected by decisions of developers. Written comments and pictures submitted. Howard Galberth, 10905 E. 11th Opposed to the liberal approval of rezones from UR-3.5 to UR-7. Developers not complying with contract obligations. New developments need fencing. Planning Commission needs to increase oversight on the developers and making developments follow through on the items that were supposed to occur before homes were occupied. Rob Gregg, Manager Spokane Industrial Park Mr. Gragg takes issue with Land Use Policy 2.5.6 which specifies that commercial and retail zones belong around industrial. Workers in the Industrial Park have the need for these services. These benefits are not a detriment as suggested in the plan. People are choosing to move elsewhere due to some plan land uses. Changing what a person can do with his land can be considered a taking? Spokane Industrial Park is the largest industrial park in the region, with abundant land. The State of Washington is too difficult to do business with: businesses locate or relocate to Idaho where it is easier to do business. Written comments were submitted by Kerry Orcutt, David Gump, John Elias, Janice Austin and Jill Enzler, Commissioner Crosby seeing there was no one else wishing to speak closed pubic hearing at 8:24 pm X. FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER Commissioner Crosby asked for recommendations from staff, for deliberations. Commissioner Blum moved that the official comment period for the Planning Commission would end at close of business on Monday July 18, 2005. Motion was seconded by Commissioner Beaulac. Motion passed with 6 in favor and Commissioner Carroll opposed. Schedule for deliberations is set for Wed. and Thurs. beginning July 20, 2005 for the next four weeks. Commissioner Carroll expressed a concern that all commissioners might not be able to attend every night. Meetings are recorded and commissioners can come and listen to them to catch up. The Plan will be updated with underline and strike-through until approved for recommendation to City Council. The Commission will initiate their deliberations with the consideration of the Introduction, Utilities, and Natural Environment, reserving the Parks element until later in the schedule to enable the Commission to consider the draft Parks master Plan. The Commission requested footnote dates for draft versions. It was agreed that deliberations would end no earlier than Aug 11, 2005. XI. ADJOURNMENT There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 9:00 p.m. June 23,2005 Planning Commission Page 5 of 6 Spokane Valley Planning Commission Minutes SUBMITTED: APPROVED: Deanna Griffith, Administrative Assistant David Crosby, Chairman June 23,2005 Planning Commission Page 6 of 6 Spokane Valley Planning Commission Approved Minutes Council Chambers — City Hall 11707 E. Sprague Ave July 28, 2005 I. CALL TO ORDER Commissioner Gothmann made a motion to appoint Commissioner Kogle as acting chairman. Second by Commissioner Beaulac. Passed unanimous. Commissioner Kogle called the meeting to order at 6:01 pm. Staff attending the meeting: Marina Sukup, Director of Community Development, Greg McCormick, Planning Manager, Scott Kuhta, Sr. Planner, Mike Basinger, Associate Planner and Deanna Griffith, Administrative Assistant II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Commission, audience, and staff recited the Pledge of Allegiance. III. ROLL CALL Fred Beaulac—Present Bill Gothmann — Present Bob Blum —Absent, excused Gail Kogle—Present John G. Carroll —Absent, excused Ian Robertson— Present David Crosby— Present APPROVAL OF AGENDA Commissioner Gothmann moved that the July 28, 2005 agenda be approved as written. Commissioner Beaulac seconded the motion. Motion passed unanimously. IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES It was moved by Commissioner Gothmann seconded by Commissioner Robertson that the minutes of the July 14, 2005, be tabled until the August 11, 2005 meeting. Motion passed unanimously. VI. PUBLIC COMMENT No public Comment VII. COMMISSION REPORTS Commissioner Robertson reported that he had held the first meeting of the Neighborhood Chapter Adhoc Committee. He stated that he feels it is going well. Members are Commissioner Robertson, Commissioner Kogle, Commissioner Beaulac, Councilmember Schimmels, Julie Prafke and Michele Maher from the Spokane Valley Chamber of Commerce, Chuck Hafner and Mary Pollard. Commissioner Gothmann reported that he had attended the city council meeting June 23,2005 Planning Commission Minutes Page 1 of 2 Spokane Valley Planning Commission Minutes where they discussed block parties and stated they had hired a City Attorney. Commissioners Beaulac, Kogle and Crosby had nothing to report VIII. ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS Director Sukup stated that the commission was still on a time line to finish up by the 11th of August. The Commissioners are still on a schedule to meet August 3rd, 4th, 10th and a regular meeting on the 11th. VIII. COMMISSION BUSINESS A. OLD BUSINESS: Comprehensive Plan deliberations. Discussion on the Economic Development Chapter followed. B. New Business None X. FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER None XI. ADJOURNMENT Meeting adjourned at 8:35 pm SUBMITTED: APPROVED: Deanna Griffith, Administrative Assistant David Crosby, Chairman July 28,2005 Planning Commission Page 2 of 2 Neighborhood Ad Hoc Task force draft Last printed August 11,2005 CHAPTER TEN - NEIGHBORHOODS 10.0 Introduction Neighborhoods—their character, their livability, their development—these are some of the vital elements of the attractiveness of a city. Neighborhoods are the most immediate symbols of the context in which we live our lives. ,Empowering neighbors and Deleted:Our society is increasingly, neighborhoods is vital to restoring a sense of control and balance to the life of the and rapidly,becoming so complex that the overwhelming sense of average citizen. powerlessness is a significant motivating force in a citizen's daily Neighborhoods are the first line of defense against the feelings of disenfranchisement life. The complexity is so profound that so invade much of modern life. They are the first line of defense against crime, loss that most people have only a vague and deterioration,those negatives that so define much of urban life. idea of how the instruments aloebeing of daily g life function...let alone being able to The Neighborhood Chapter of the Spokane Valley Comprehensive Plan establishes the operate and repair them. ¶ process for neighborhood/sub-area planning once the Comprehensive Plan has been adopted. This important community process effectively implements the vision of the Comprehensive Plan while ensuring that neighborhoods continue to be the foundation of a strong community. While many of the complex issues and opportunities facing the City are addressed effectively at the city-wide level, others require a more specific solution. In addition, neighborhoods and sub-areas may face unique issues which differ from those in other parts of the community. 10.1 Planning Context The Washington Growth Management Act' and Washington Administrative Code provide for the inclusion of optional elements2 relating to physical development in the Comprehensive Plan. Neighborhood and sub-area plans may be included, provided they are consistent with the Comprehensive Plan. The initial adoption of a neighborhood/sub-area plan that does not otherwise modify the comprehensive plan policies and designations applicable to the sub-area is not limited to the annual update and may be enacted at any time3. 10.2 Neighborhood/sub-area Planning 10.2.1 Purpose. Neighborhood/sub-area plans should be used to create, enhance or maintain civic identity and to revitalize under-utilized areas. Infill development is the process of developing or redeveloping under-utilized parcels of land within existing urban areas that are already provided with services. Infill development policies help utilize existing utilities and services before considering costly extensions. Neighborhood/sub-area plans include plans for residential neighborhoods, industrial/commercial development, mixed-use development and joint planning areas. The adoption and incorporation of neighborhood/sub-area plans into the Comprehensive Plan adds greater detail,guidance and predictability to the Plan. A Neighborhood/sub-area is a geographic neighborhood/sub-area within the City of Spokane Valley, adjacent jurisdictions and joint planning areas. The extent of a neighborhood is variable and may be defined by tradition, common interests and uses, period of building and development or subdivision patterns. Neighborhood boundaries may include such features as major streets, natural geographic boundaries or other 1 RCW 36.70A.080 2 WAC 365-195-345 3 RCW 36.70A.130 CITY OF SPOKANE VALLEY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN 1 CHAPTER 10-NEIGHBORHOODS Neighborhood Ad Hoc Task force draft Last printed August 11,2005 physical features. A neighborhood-based organization is an entity composed of individuals, businesses and/or institutions associated with one or more specific neighborhoods that are recognized by the City as a partner in communicating information and providing assistance in securing public participation. Neighborhood/sub-area planning will provide residents a greater opportunity to be involved in a planning process that is more identifiable and predictable. Local residents, business owners and property owners will gain a clearer understanding of the potential changes that may affect their neighborhoods. 10.2.2 Procedure. Neighborhood/sub-area plans should be initiated by neighborhood- based organizations to address unique characteristics and issues within a localized area. Public participation in the development of the plan should be comprehensive, including all interested persons, property owners, residents and business interests. The elements to be considered in Neighborhood/sub-area plans include all mandatory elements of the Comprehensive Plan specified by the GMA and should follow the recommendations of the Washington Administrative Code. Neighborhood/sub-area plans should provide more detailed information and include goals, policies and strategies for implementation. A proposed neighborhood/sub-area plan should be submitted to the Planning Commission with notice to the City Council. The Planning Commission will schedule one or more public hearings to consider the proposed plan. Following hearing,the Planning Commission will forward its findings and recommendations to the City Council for their consideration. 10.2 Goals and Policies Goal Deleted:As with many cities, Spokane Valley will have limited funNG-1 Maintain consistencybetween Neighborhood/sub-areaplans and the neigh with nweighboch torhood/sub-area tea pursuelits 9 neighborhood/sub-area planning City Comprehensive Plan. goals. It will be imperative that Spokane Valley make strategic investments of the limited resources available. 11 NG-2 Preserve and protect Spokane Valley's existing residential neighborhoods and require new development to be of a scale and design that is compatible with existing neighborhood character. Policies NP-2.1 Establish appropriate design guidelines with buffer zones and transition requirements to protect residential neighborhoods from incompatible land uses and adverse impacts associated with high intensity transportation and freight corridors. NP-2.2 Encourage rehabilitation and improvement programs to conserve and upgrade existing properties and buildings. NP-2.3 Maintain a strong code enforcement program to protect residential areas from illegal land use activities. NP-2.4 ,Encourage programs targeted at neighborhood preservation, including (Deleted:Support Weed and Seed, housing rehabilitation and crime prevention programs, such as Neighborhood Watch, McGruff Houses,etc.. NP-2.5 Work with schools and non-profit organizations to identify and address housing and neighborhood concerns. CITY OF SPOKANE VALLEY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN 2 CHAPTER 10-NEIGHBORHOODS Neighborhood Ad Hoc Task force draft Last printed August 11,2005 NP-2.6 Focus economic development activities in areas which support and enhance continued neighborhood integrity. NP-2.7 Encourage,development of neighborhood/sub-area based associations (Deleted: the and work with these groups to develop and refine neighborhood/sub-area plans. NP-2.8 Qevelop guidelines for neighborhood/sub-area planning that can be (Deleted:The City shall d used in the creation of neighborhood/sub-area plans. Goal NG-3 Encourage Neighborhood/sub-area planning for commercial, industrial and mixed use properties to enhance the quality, vibrancy and character of existing development and to promote the highest and best use of land. Policies NP-3.1 Establish permitting procedures, regulations and incentives that encourage multi-use areas that integrate a broad range of appropriate and compatible land use activities and encourage the development and redevelopment of land in conformance with the SVCP. NP-3.2 Encourage the remediation of environmentally contaminated sites, to return the land to productive commercial and industrial use. NP-3.3 Ensure that commercial development is designed and scaled in a manner that is compatible with surrounding neighborhoods. Goal NG-4 Work with, neighborhoods/sub-areas to determine the need, if any, and Deleted:The City of Spokane the preferred approach for outreach activities, in order to maintain the flow of Valley will w information between the city and it's citizens. (Deleted: it's CITY OF SPOKANE VALLEY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN 3 CHAPTER 10-NEIGHBORHOODS Planning Commission deliberation meeting notes from Thursday August 4, 2005. 6:00 to 9:00 pm. Commissioner Carroll called the meeting to order at 6:00 pm, stating that Commissioner Crosby was in transit. Commissioners Carroll, Robertson, Beaulac, Blum and Gothmann were present at roll call, Commissioner Kogle was excused absent and Commissioner Crosby arrived at 7:00 pm. Discussion continued on the Transportation chapter of the comprehensive plan. Tg-4, no change Tp-1, strike the word 'full' Tp-2, no change Tp-3, no change Tp-4, strike the word 'urban' Tp-5, strike the words 'at higher densities.' Tp-6, add the words 'Private roads should be designed and constructed to current street standards.' Tp-7 & 8, change the word keep to restrict in tp-7, add tp-8 to the end of 7, 'and utilize traffic calming.... Tp-9, remove Tp-10, no change Discussion of the change of the order of discussion items. Tp-3, add the word lighting after landscaping before and beaut..... Break Return from break, read neighborhood chapter submission, 3 pages finished that am by the Adhoc committee. First paragraph of introduction. Removing last two lines of paragraph. Vote, 3 to remove, 3 to retain. Will need to be readdressed at next Wed. meeting. 10.1, no change 10.2.1, first sentence, paragraph two, add the word neighborhood after geographic and sub-area. 10.2.2, definition of the word all, as in reference to 'all interested persons, property owners, residents and business interests.' Will be addressed in the guidelines. Goals and Policies - remove paragraph - as with many cities, Spokane Valley will have limited funds limited resources available. Ng-1, no change Ng-2, discussion of the use of the word 'scale'. Vote 3 to remove, 3 to retain. Will need to be readdressed at next Wed. meeting. Np-2.1, no change Np-2.2, no change Np-2.3, no change Np-2.4, strike the word 'Block' not the correct name of the program as it exists in Spokane Valley. Change the first word to Encourage Will continue discussion on Wed. 10th starting with np-2.5. When finished with neighborhood discussion will return to transportation then, move into land use. Move to adjourn at 8:45 Planning Commission Deliberation Meeting 8/08/05, 6:00 to 9:00 pm, Commissioner Crosby called the meeting to order at 6:00 pm. Commissioners Crosby, Robertson, Beaulac, Blum, Kogle and Gothmann were present at roll call, Commissioner Carroll is absent excused. Discussion continued on the proposed Neighborhood chapter of the comprehensive plan. Np-2.5, no change Np-2.6, no change Np-2.7, change to read - Encourage development of neighborhood/sub-area based associations and work with these groups to develop and refine neighborhood/sub-area plans. Np-2.8, remove the first three words, The City shall Ng-3, no change Np-3.1, no change Np-3.2, no change Np-3.3, no change Ng-4, strike the words, The City of Spokane Valley, Return to the previously unresolved issues from the plan, at the 8-4 meeting, both issues fell to a tie vote. Return to the beginning of the introduction. Last two sentences in the first paragraph. Suggestion: there are certain complexities to daily life there is one thing you can count on is your neighborhood. Vote to strike from the paragraph the last two sentences. Move the next paragraph, one line, to the end of 1st paragraph. Return to NG-2, after discussion; vote to keep the word scale in the goal. Next discussion, does this neighborhood chapter belong in the plan? Commissioner Blum feels that having an Adhoc committee and taking in more information after the close of the public hearing is not appropriate. He feels this is accepting public comment beyond the borders of the 'law'. Question-people on the committee, developers invited? Commissioners Beaulac and Gothmann brought this concept to the table in response to public testimony. The Commission had discussion that we should form Adhoc committee. Should the commission have public comment period after Adhoc returns. Adhoc committee consisted of 2 chamber members, 2 people from neighborhoods who submitted request for chapter, a council member and three commissioners. Commissioner Robertson stated if our integrity is being questioned, then he suggests we reopen the public hearing. Mr. McCormick said that the Adhoc committee is not outside of the rules, there will be more public hearings, and the city council will hold them. A valley auto dealer asked for a private meeting to discuss a specific land use issue and we have told them no. Is this the different? The auto dealer did testify. We have the information about what they want, they wanted to have a one on meeting which is not appropriate. Any commissioner is able to go and talk to anyone to get more information. Commissioner Blum still feels this wrong. The Adhoc committee only took the information from the housing chapter, chamber recommendation and the neighborhoods that testified. All information used to draft the chapter was information the commission had already received, there was no new information. Committee brought people outside of the process, who chosen, chance to add comment. Chairman only chose people who had already given testimony during the public hearing process. The decision should be as simple as have it in or leave it out. Commissioner Robertson moved that the proposed neighborhood chapter be added to the comprehensive plan as amended by the commission's discussions and recommendations. It was seconded by Commissioner Beaulac. Vote by count is Commissioners Robertson, Kogle, Beaulac and Gothmann vote for adding the chapter, Commissioner Blum abstains, based on the differing opinion that he approves of the chapter but not of the process in which it was presented, Commissioner Crosby exercises his right as Chairman to not vote. It passes. Return to Transportation TG-5, spell out the TSM, as Transportation System Management then follow by (TSM). Tp-11, change the word coordination to synchronization Tp-12, strike 'will be used' start the policy with Use Access Management Discussion as to whether the goals and policies should be under the supporting wording or grouped together at the end of each chapter. Several suggestions, no decision. Staffs to develop a policy to address the capacity enhancement, traffic storage, please also make a reference to funding. Tp-36, should stay where it is TG6, no change Tp-13, no change Tp-14, no change Tp-15, no change Tp-16, staff to define facilities as it addresses the policy Tp-17, add the word 'Include' to the front of this statement Tp-18, add the word 'Include' to the front of this policy and strike the words 'should be required Tp-19, no change Tp-20, strike policy, covered in 16 Tp-21, strike policy, covered in 19 Tg-7, change CTR to commute reduction act and then follow with (CTR) Tg-8, staff to rewrite, end at 'livability need of the City. Remove all words following. Tg-9, staff to rewrite for better reading Tp-22, move to under goal 6 Tp-23, move to under goal 6 Tp-24, strike Tp-25, move to goal 9 Tp-26, strike Tp-27, moves to goal 9, strike 'especially to reduce sprawl' Tp-28, move to goal 9, start with 'Allow for a ...' Tp-29, strike Tp-30, strike Tp-31, move to goal 7 Tp-32, strike Commissioner Crosby has a conflict for Thursday night's meeting. He will only be able to stay until 7:00 pm, due to a prior commitment. Commissioner Blum moved that Commissioner Kogle would then take over as Chairman for the remainder of the meeting. Commissioner Robertson seconded, passed unanimously. After the transportation chapter is done, we will move to land use. The commission chooses to review policy before the specific map issues. Adjourn at 9:10 pm.