2016, 04-12 Regular Formal MINUTES
City of Spokane Valley
City Council Regular Meeting
Formal Meeting Format
Tuesday,April 12, 2016
Mayor Higgins called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
Attendance: Staff
Arne Woodard, Deputy Mayor Mark Calhoun, Deputy City Manager
Dean Grafos, Councilmember Cary Driskell, City Attorney
Chuck Hafner, Councilmember Erik Lamb, Deputy City Attorney
Ed Pace, Councilmember Chelsie Taylor, Finance Director
Sam Wood, Councilmember Mike Stone, Parks & Recreation Director
Bill Gothmann, Councilmember Pro Tern John Hohman, Comm&Eco. Dev. Director
Erik Guth, Public Works Director
ABSENT: Mike Basinger, Eco.Dev. Coordinator
Rod Higgins, Mayor Morgan Koudelka, Sr. Administrative Analyst
John Whitehead, Human Resources Manager
Carolbelle Branch, Public Information Officer
Rick VanLeuven, Police Chief
Christine Bainbridge, City Clerk
INVOCATION: Pastor Andrew Fouche gave the invocation.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE Council, staff and audience stood for the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL City Clerk Bainbridge called the roll; all Councilmembers were present except Mayor
Higgins. It was moved by Councilmember Pace, seconded and unanimously agreed to excuse Mayor
Higgins from tonight's meeting.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA It was moved by Councilmember Pace, seconded, and unanimously agreed
to approve the amended agenda.
INTRODUCTION OF SPECIAL GUESTS AND PRESENTATIONS n/a
COMMITTEE,BOARD,LIAISON SUMMARY REPORTS
Councilmembers Grafos, Gothmann and Wood had no report. Councilmember Pace reported that he
attended the STA(Spokane Transit Authority)meeting and that he continues to oppose any ballot measure
for an additional sales tax; and said he went to the Chamber of Commerce Government Relations meeting.
Councilmember Hafner said he also attended the STA meeting where they discussed having a police
presence at the plaza; said they discussed the controversial additional sales tax for a Central City line for a
high-transit system from Browns through the business section up to the University,then to the Community
Colleges, and that it really is a City of Spokane Project; went to the Health District Board meeting where
they talked about vaping regulations and some proposed legislative changes concerning sampling of
different types of vapors; and that they are continuing their goal of hiring a new health district officer.
Deputy Mayor Woodard said he went to the Chamber of Commerce meeting and they discussed the types
of issues that come up when the legislature is in session,when there are limited days in which to respond,
and they are working to determine how best to respond in those situations.
MAYOR'S REPORT n/a
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PROCLAMATION n/a
PUBLIC COMMENTS: Deputy Mayor Woodard invited public comments. Mr. David Wiyrick spoke
about his concern for and support of a citizen review board, and read excerpts from his handout,copies of
which were distributed to Council.
1. CONSENT AGENDA: Consists of items considered routine which are approved as a group. Any
member of Council may ask that an item be removed from the Consent Agenda to be considered separately.
Proposed Motion:I move to approve the Consent Agenda.
a.Approval of claim vouchers on April 12,2016 Request for Council Action Form,Total: $2,286,767.24
b. Approval of Payroll for Pay Period Ending March 31, 2016: $431,952.70
c. Approval of March 8,2016 Council Meeting Minutes,Regular Formal Format
d. Approval of March 22, 2016 Council Meeting Minutes, Regular Formal Format
e. Approval of March 28, 2016 Council Meeting Minutes, Special Meeting
f. Approval of March 29,2016 Council Meeting Minutes, Special Meeting
g. Approval of March 29, 2016 Council Meeting Minutes, Regular Study Session Format
h. Approval of April 5, 2016 Council Meeting Minutes, Study Session Format
It was moved by Councilmember Pace, seconded and unanimously agreed to approve the Consent Agenda.
NEW BUSINESS:
2. First Reading Proposed Ordinance 16-004,Uncovered Loads—Erik Lamb
It was moved by Councilmember Gothmann to advance Ordinance No. 16-004, adopting Spokane Valley
Municipal Code Chapter 7.10, relating to the transportation of waste materials, to a second reading. After
City Clerk Bainbridge read the ordinance title, Deputy City Attorney Lamb and Legal Intern Caleb Hatch
went over the proposed ordinance, and explained the difference in penalties between a class 2 and a class 3
civil infraction. Council agreed to include a class 3 infraction rather than a class two, and that will be so
noted when this comes back for a second reading. Deputy Mayor Woodard invited public comment; no
comments were offered. Vote by Acclamation:In Favor: Unanimous. Opposed:None. Motion carried.
3. Motion Consideration: Approval of WSDOT Call for Projects—Eric Guth
It was moved by Councilmember Pace and seconded, to approve the Deputy City manager to authorize
staff to apply for WSDOT's Pedestrian and Bicycle Program and Safe Route to School grant funds for the
projects outlined above with no matching funds. Director Guth explained the process and the proposed
projects as well as the financial impacts, including the scenario of needed funds should the City go with a
10% or a 20% match. Mr. Guth noted that seventeen schools now have beacons, with thirteen placed at
elementary schools and four at middle schools; and said the remaining twelve or thirteen needed areas are
mostly middle schools, with possibly one high school. Discussion turned to available REET (real estate
excise tax) funds and whether to include a 10 or 20% match when applying for these grants. Mr. Calhoun
mentioned the REET analysis included in the packet materials,and that there has been so much committed
to the Barker project and the Sullivan/Euclid intersection,that we are reaching our saturation point; and he
mentioned that an alternate source would be when we close out the books at year-end, and move any fund
balance in excess of 50% into the capital reserve fund for a variety of specific projects. After Council
discussion on matching funds, it was moved by Councilmember Hafner and seconded to amend the motion
to accept all five grant application proposals with 10% matching funds. It was mentioned that the
likelihood of receiving all grants is slim. Deputy Mayor Woodard invited public comment; no comments
were offered. Vote by acclamation to amend the motion: In Favor: Deputy Mayor Woodard, and
Councilmembers Grafos, Gothmann, Pace and Hafner. Opposed: Councilmember Wood. Motion Carried.
Vote on the fully amended motion to approve the Deputy City Manager to authorize staff to apply for
WSDOT's Pedestrian and Bicycle Program and Safe Route to School grant funds for the projects outlined
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above with 10% matching funds. In Favor: Deputy Mayor Woodard, and Councilmembers Grafos,
Gothmann, Pace and Hafner. Opposed: Councilmember Wood. Motion Carried.
3a. Proposed Resolution 16-007 Restrictions on Spokane River Use—Cary Driskell
It was moved by Councilmember Hafner and seconded to approve Resolution 16-007 regarding restrictions
on use of the Spokane River relating to the Sullivan Road bridge construction project. City Attorney
Driskell explained that last February,Council approved Resolution 16-006 placing restrictions on access to
the River and closing the section of the river in the vicinity of the Sullivan Road bridge when unsafe
conditions occur, specifically from 100 feet east of the easternmost edge of the northbound bridge to 500
feet west of the easternmost edge; and that this resolution would change that area to start from the Old
Mission Trail takeout,which is about 1,100 yards from the easternmost edge of the northbound road bridge,
to 500 feet west of the easternmost edge, as noted in the newer resolution.Deputy Mayor Woodard invited
public comment. Krisinda Marshall asked if this is just for the river or includes the Centennial trail. Mr.
Driskell explained that due to the water level and speed,as well as the construction,the area creates a hazard
for people navigating through the waters, and that the Centennial Trail has been addressed by contractor.
There were no further public comments. Vote by Acclamation: In Favor: Unanimous. Opposed: None.
Motion carried.
PUBLIC COMMENTS: Deputy Mayor Woodard invited public comments; no comments were offered.
ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS
4. Accomplishments Report—Mark Calhoun
The report started with an explanation from Mr. Calhoun of the 2015 Council Goals and the work done in
association with each goal, and included an update on the November wind storm; he explained the
Legislative and Executive departments, including the number of Council meetings and committees Council
serve on; and moved into the City Clerk's Office with public record requests and information on records
management. Sr. Administrative Analyst Koudelka explained about the contract administration; followed
by an explanation of their respective departments and areas of expertise from Public Information Officer
Branch, Human Resources Manager Whitehead, Finance Director Taylor, Deputy City Manager Calhoun
for IT services, and City Attorney Driskell. Deputy Mayor Woodard called for a recess at 7:35 p.m. and
reconvened the meeting at approximately 7:45 p.m., at which time the remainder of the Accomplishments
Report was given by Police Chief VanLeuven,Community and Economic Development Director Hohman,
and Public Works Director Guth. Council thanked staff for the presentation and their continued work over
the year.
5. Comprehensive Plan,Tiny Homes Micki Harnois
Previously removed from the agenda;to be brought back at a future meeting.
At 8:47 p.m. it was moved by Councilmember Hafner, seconded and unanimously agreed to extend the
meeting to 9:30 p.m.
6. Comprehensive Plan Goals, Follow-up Report-John Hohman
Director Hohman explained that staff wanted to take a step back and give Council more of an overall review
prior to getting into the details of the comprehensive plan;said the previously discussed Retail and Tourism
studies help populate strategies and the focus areas as we move forward on the comprehensive plan, and as
we move forward, he said that Economic Development Coordinator Mr. Mike Basinger will be working
with other staff on this endeavor, and will be the lead staff person. Mr. Basinger said that although he just
became the lead person for this issue, he has been involved with the Comprehensive Plan process almost
since our City's incorporation. It was explained that focus areas refer to specific issues in each comp plan
element that the City wants to analyze further, and some things for Council to consider while evaluating
the focus areas include whether the focus areas adequately reflect the community's priorities, and if there
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are any missing focus areas. Mr. Basinger said the goal is to keep the comp plan lean and understandable
and to make sure Council's priorities are incorporated into the plan; said we must, of course, adhere to
GMA (Growth Management Act) requirements, but that the idea is to keep the plan driven and guided by
the City's vision. He explained that the PowerPoint slides are organized by comp plan elements identified
by focus areas, with general statements identifying priorities. Councilmember Gothmann said he noticed
with some other cities,that their bike plans are readily available on their website and not just in a book,and
Mr. Basinger agreed,and said staff is also examining our website for functionality,that they want to make
it mobile friendly and to upgrade our GIS system as well; said the retail improvement strategy has shown
we need to capitalize on our assets like the Trail and to make connections to retail;and that the overall goal
is to update the comp plan with strategies and actions for a unified vision of the City.
7. Advance Agenda—Mayor Higgins
There were no suggested changes to the Advance Agenda.
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
Mr. Calhoun apologized again for the microphone problems,and extended thanks to IT Specialist Bing and
the members of Twisted Pair video-recording crew for their assistance with additional microphones.
It was moved by Councilmember Hafner, seconded, and unanimously agreed to adjourn. The meeting
adjourned at 9:12 p.m.
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AGENDA ITEM TITLE: Resolution 16-007 — Restrictions on Spokane River Use Re: Sullivan
Road Bridge Project.
GOVERNING LEGISLATION: RCW 35A.11.020
PREVIOUS COUNCIL ACTION TAKEN: Resolution 16-006 closing portion of Spokane River
immediately adjacent to the Sullivan Bridge construction project
BACKGROUND: The City is currently working on the Sullivan Road West bridge replacement
project through its contractor, Max J. Kuney Company. That project occasionally requires
closure of the Spokane River immediately adjacent to and under the project for safety reasons
because of equipment use and potentially falling debris. Additionally, fluctuating water levels
due to seasonal runoff creates additional safety issues with regard to the construction site.
The Spokane County Sheriff has traditionally been consulted on whether conditions warrant
closing portions of the river because he is the chief safety officer in the County. As such, staff
has consulted with Sheriff Knezovich and advised him of the conditions. Sheriff Knezovich read
this draft Resolution and recommended that it be approved to appropriately provide for the
health, safety, and welfare of our citizenry.
This proposed Resolution is drafted to recognize that periodic, short-term closures on an as-
needed basis will provide the safety necessary and still leave the river open for normal use the
rest of the time. The Resolution would delegate to the City Manager or designee the authority
to assess the conditions and close the Spokane River around the construction site intermittently
as appropriate. It would expire October 31, 2016 unless acted on by the Council prior to that.
The Resolution also requires that appropriate notice be given of intermittent closures and
subsequent re-openings so that the public is well informed.
Resolution 16-006, adopted February 9, 2016, had a river closure area smaller than what is
requested in Resolution 16-007. The closure area in Resolution 16-007 is based upon updated
information and recommendations from the Spokane County Sheriff's Department.
OPTIONS: (1) approve Resolution 16-007; (2) request changes.
RECOMMENDED ACTION OR MOTION: I move we approve Resolution 16-007 regarding
restrictions on use of the Spokane River relating to the Sullivan Road bridge construction
project.
BUDGET/FINANCIAL IMPACTS: NA
STAFF CONTACT: Cary P. Driskell, City Attorney.
ATTACHMENTS: Proposed Resolution 16-007.
CITY OF SPOKANE VALLEY
SPOKANE COUNTY,WASHINGTON ,'�a,v
RESOLUTION NO. 16-007
A RESOLUTION SUPERSEDING RESOLUTION 16-006,AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY
MANAGER TO PERIODICALLY CLOSE AND OPEN THE SPOKANE RIVER ON A
TEMPORARY BASIS RELATING TO THE SULLIVAN ROAD BRIDGE
CONSTRUCTION PROJECT UNTIL OCTOBER 31, 2016, AND OTHER MATTERS
RELATED THERETO.
WHEREAS, the City may take appropriate action to protect the public health, safety, and welfare
of its citizens pursuant to the Washington State Constitution,Article XI Section 11, and RCW 35A.11.020;
and
WHEREAS, the southbound Sullivan Road bridge is currently under construction. As a
consequence of this construction, and due to fluctuating water levels due to seasonal runoff, periodically
there may be a risk of injury for people utilizing the river; and
WHEREAS,the City has been advised by Spokane County Sheriff Knezovich that these conditions
constitute a significant safety concern, and that it is appropriate to restrict access to the Spokane River
surrounding the Sullivan Road bridge construction project due to danger posed by the construction project
and the elevated water levels in the Spokane River. These conditions pose a danger to any person entering
the river, including rescue personnel.
NOW THEREFORE, be it resolved by the City Council of the City of Spokane Valley, Spokane
County, Washington as follows:
Section 1. Restrictions on Access to Spokane River Around Sullivan Road Bridge.
a. The City is currently replacing the southbound Sullivan Road bridge. This work occasionally
results in potentially unsafe conditions for people who may be in the Spokane River immediately below the
construction site,which includes an area on either side of the bridge.
b. The City and its contractor are able to determine when unsafe conditions are likely to occur due
to ongoing construction. In lieu of ordering the area around the construction zone to be closed until the
new southbound bridge is completed, the City Council delegates to the City Manager or designee the
authority to close that portion of the Spokane River identified in Section 1(c), including those identified
limitations of use, on a periodic basis as may be warranted by the conditions. The City Manager may
consult with any appropriate personnel necessary in making the determination to close or re-open the
affected portion of the river.
c. The City Manager or designee is hereby authorized to periodically close the Spokane River in
the vicinity of the Sullivan Road bridge when unsafe conditions due to ongoing construction and/or river
water levels occur. When so closed, the public shall not intentionally enter, swim, dive or float, with or
without a boat,raft, craft, or other floating device, in or upon the water of the Spokane River from the Old
Mission Trail takeout (which is approximately 1,100 yards from the easternmost edge of the northbound
Sullivan Road bridge)to 500 feet west of the easternmost edge of the northbound Sullivan Road bridge as
identified by the City through media releases,traffic alerts,or other appropriate means. Said media releases
or traffic alerts shall identify the beginning and end date and time of each intermittent closure.
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d. The Spokane Valley Police Department is directed to take appropriate action to enforce this
Resolution for the benefit of the public health, safety, and welfare.
Section 2: Supersedes Resolution 16-006. This Resolution shall supersede Resolution 16-006 in
its entirety and Resolution 16-006 shall not have any further effect upon adoption of this Resolution.
Section 3.Duration of Restrictions on Access to Spokane River. This Resolution shall be effective
upon adoption, and shall continue in effect until October 31,2016, unless terminated earlier by subsequent
action of the City Council.
Adopted this day of April, 2016.
City of Spokne Valley
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L.R. Higgins, Mayri.
ATTEST:
City Clerk, Christine Bainbridge
Approved as to Form:
Office of the City Attorney
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GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS
I AM DAVID WIYRICK A SPOKANE VALLEY RESIDENT
I AM HERE TO MAKE COMMENTS REGARDING THE
NEW PROPOSED CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD BEING
PROPOSED BY THE SPOKANE VALLEY CITY COUNCIL
MEMBERS.
I UNDERSTAND THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS
SPOKANE VALLEY CITIZENS THAT HAVE REQUESTED
THAT THE SPOKANE VALLEY CITY COUNCIL HAVE
CONVERSATIONS REGARDING THE FORMATION OF A
CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD.
FOR THE RECORD I DO FULLY SUPPORT SUCH A
MOVE AND APPLAUD THE COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR
TAKING A FRESH LOOK AT THE WAY THE CITY OF
SPOKANE VALLEY CONDUCTS BUSINESS.
I WAS ONE OF THE KEY ARCHITECTS FOR THE
SHERIFFS CITIZEN ADVISORY BOARD WHICH WAS
FORMED UNDER THEN SHERIFF MARK STERK.
THE CAB WAS FORMED AS A SOUNDING BOARD
WHEN THERE WAS GOING TO BE CHANGES IN
TRAINING AND POLICY WITHIN THE SHERIFFS
OFFICE AND ALSO TOURS AND DEMONSTRATIONS
WERE PROVIDED TO THE CAB MEMBERS SO THEY
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WOULD MORE FULLY UNDERSTAND THE WORKINGS
OF THE SHERIFFS OFFICE.
IT HAS BEEN MISREPRESENTED BY A SENIOR LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICER THAT THE CAB DID A
COMPLETE REVIEW OF THE ROBERT YATES
MURDER INVESTIGATION.
IN FACT A WELL KNOWN FORMER DETECTIVE FROM
THE OJ SIMPSON TRIAL WROTE A BOOK ABOUT THE
INVESTIGATION AND WAS CRITICAL OF THE TASK
FORCE INVESTIGATION.
A PRESENTATION WAS MADE TO THE CAB REFUTING
THE MISTAKES IN THE BOOK BY THE AUTHOR.
THE CAB DID PREPARE A LETTER REGARDING THE
MISINFORMATION PRESENTED IN THE BOOK.
AS AN ASIDE IF A CITIZEN WISHED TO GOOGLE THE
DETECTIVES WEBSITE THEY MIGHT LOCATE A
PHOTO OFA CURRENT HIGH RANKING LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL STANDING WITH THE
FORMER L.A. DETECTIVE ATA BOOK SIGNING.
I BELIEVE THE INTENSE PUBLIC PRESSURE ON THE
SHERIFF TO FORM A LEGITIMATE CAB HAS HAD A
POSITIVE EFFECT AND THE SHERIFFS CAB WILL BE
A GOOD ORGANIZATION IN THE FUTURE WHEN THEY
TRULY BECOME AUTONOMOUS FROM THE
SHERIFF'S INFLUENCE AND CAN CALL FOR AN
INVESTIGATION ON ANY CASES THEY DEEM TO
INVESTIGATE INCLUDING IMPUT FROM OPPOSING
SIDES.
I APPLAUD THE SHERIFF CAB MEMBERS AND I WAS
RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SELECTION OF MOST OF
THE MEMBERS BACK WHEN IT WAS FIRST FORMED
AND MANY OF THEM ARE STILL MEMBERS.
HOWEVER THE SPOKANE VALLEY HAS A LARGE
POPULATION AND IT IS TIME THAT A MUNICIPALITY
OF THIS SIZE FORM ITS OWN CIVILIAN REVIEW
BOARD TO ADDRESS SAFETY CONCERNS AND
COMPLAINTS WITH-IN THE CITY.
THE CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD SHOULD ANSWER TO
THE CITY MANAGER OR A PUBLIC SAFETY
DIRECTOR WHO WOULD ULTIMATELY ANSWER TO
THE SPOKANE VALLEY CITY COUNCIL.
I WOULD SUGGEST BOARD MEMBERS BE
KNOWLEDGEABLE OF THE USE OF FORCE
CONTINUUM, BASIC KNOWLEDGE OF POLICIES AND
PROCEDURES,ACCREDITATION STANDARDS AND
CRIMINAL JUSTICE TRAINING COMMISSION
PROVIDED TRAINING .
AND BY THE WAY CONGRATULATIONS TO CURRENT
CHIEF RICK VAN LUEVEN FOR ATTAINING THIS
ACCREDITATION FOR HIS DEPARTMENT.
I WAS THE SHERIFFS STAFF MANAGER THAT
ATTAINED THE FIRST SPOKANE COUNTY SHERIFF'S
ACCREDITATION UNDER SHERIFF GOLDMAN AND
UNDERSTAND HOW DIFFICULT AND THE HARD WORK
IT TAKES TO ATTAIN THE ACCREDITATION .
THE CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD SHOULD ALSO BE
AWARE OF THE TYPE TRAINING PRESENTED BY THE
WASHINGTON STATE CRIMINAL JUSTICE CENTER
TO LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.
I SUGGEST THE SPOKANE VALLEY CITY COUNCIL
WORK WITH ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDER CITIZENS IN
THE VALLEY INCLUDING WOMEN AND MINORITIES
AND PROFESSIONALS .
THEY NEED TO VET EACH APPLICANT CAREFULLY
AND BE CAREFUL NOT TO INCLUDE PERSONS THAT
ARE BIASED AGAINST LAW ENFORCEMENT OR HAVE
AN AX TO GRIND AGAINST LAW ENFORCEMENT .
THIS WILL BE BUMPS AND BRUISED EGO'S ALONG
THE PATH BUT IT WILL BE WELL WORTH IT IN THE
END.
CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, I THANK EACH AND EVERY
ONE OF YOU FOR YOUR COURAGE AND BRAVERY IN
MAKING THE VALLEY LAW ENFORCEMENT A MORE
TRANSPARENT AGENCY.
I HAVE WORKED WITH MANY OF THE CURRENT
POLICE OFFICERS IN THE SPOKANE VALLEY
BEFORE I RETIRED AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE
OFFICERS THAT RISK THEIR LIVES EVERYDAY FOR
THE CITIZENS AND HAVE A GREAT REPUTATION AND
HOPE THE NEXT VALLEY POLICE CHIEF CAN KEEP
THE MOMENTUM GOING AND WILL BE VISIBLE TO
THE PUBLIC AND ACT AS THE SPOKESMAN WHEN
DOING PUBLIC AND MEDIA ON CAMERA PRESS
RELEASES INSTEAD OF HAVING A SHERIFF'S
SPOKESMAN DOING THE TELEVISED PRESS
RELEASES.
I BELIEVE THE CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD SHOULD
ALSO BE ABLE TO REVIEW INTERNAL
INVESTIGATIONS IN SOME CASES WHICH MAY
ACTUALLY CLEAR THE OFFICER IF THERE HAS
BEEN AN UNFAIR FINDING WITH-IN THE AGENCY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.