2007, 03-01 Special Joint Council/Planning Commisison Meeting MinutesAttendance.
Councilmembers
Diana Wilhite, Mayor
Steve Taylor, Deputy Mayor
Rich Munson, Councilmember
Dick Denenny, Councilmember
Mike DeVleming, Councilmember
Gary Schimmels, Councilmember
Bill Gothmann, Councilmember
MINUTES
SPECIAL JOINT WORKSHOP MEETING
SPOKANE VALLEY CITY COUNCIL AND
SPOKANE VALLEY PLANNING COMMISSION
CENTERPLACE GREAT ROOM
March 1, 2007 5:00 p.m.
Staff
Dave Mercier, City Manager
Nina Regor, Deputy City Mgr
Greg McCormick, Planning Manager
Scott Kuhta, Long Range Planner
Mike Basinger, Associate Planner
Micki Harnois, Associate Planner
Carolbelle Branch, Public Info. Officer
Tavis Schmidt, Planning Technician
Marina Sukup, Community Dev Director
Inga Note, Traffic Engineer
Ken Thompson, Finance Director
Carrie Acosta, Deputy City Clerk
Steve Worley, Senior Engineer
Deanna Griffith, Administrative Assistant
Others in attendance:
Troy Russ, Michael Freedman, Bill Grimes
Planning Commissioners
Gail Kogle, Chair
Fred Beaulac
Marcia Sands
John Carroll
Ian Robertson
David Crosby
Bob Blum
Mayor Wilhite opened the meeting at approximately 5:14 p.m., welcomed everyone, and turned the
meeting over to Michael Freedman, who also welcomed everyone to the meeting, and then went through
his PowerPoint presentation of the "Corridor Revitalization Framework."
Michael Freedman began by explaining that the objective of tonight's study session is to present
recommendations to retrofit the Sprague /Appleway Corridor for success; to report on the input and
feedback received at the Community Workshops; to discuss and clarify these recommendations; and to
receive informal direction from City Council to either move forward with the implementation of these
recommendations in a subarea plan; or move forward with the implementation of a modified set of plan
contents; or to bring back further information and modifications in subsequent study session(s).
Mr. Freedman explained that "corridor" means all new development defined by the single - family
transition line, and it includes the land across the street. He said that the corridor has been caught in a
change which resulted in a tremendous amount of clustered retail development; that customers left the
corridor and moved to other freeway interchanges and major crossroad areas; and that such exodus was
no one's fault. He said existing conditions drained a huge amount from the corridor and that the corridor
suffers from disinvestment. The question he said, is how to bring it back and make it viable. He
explained that one way to determine what the community would aspire to have, is through a community
survey. He said the survey demonstrated overwhelming community consensus on the importance of a
city center; respondents understand there is a lack of designated funds; and community members had
several comments regarding Appleway's extension. As a result of several community workshops, he said
they determined what were or are the barriers from the various aspects of the community; and what are
those entities' or individual's desirable changes, including comment of what they do not want.
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He said they learned that potential developers of the corridor said it needs an identity, that we need a city
center, and we also need affordable housing. Mr. Freedman then went over the listed opportunities such
as underground parking; slowing the traffic flow; having a city design center, and the opportunity to
create a city center with identity that will draw developers. He also mentioned what property owners'
concerns are including barriers such as failure to extend Appleway; whether to keep the couplet the way it
is or change it; and what they want in a city center such as getting rid of all vacant buildings.
Mr. Freedman said that regarding the state of the corridor, most workshop participants confirmed that the
corridor needs revitalization, but a minority disagreed and said business is coming back and there is no
need to make any change. He said that major community aspirations included beatification (the corridor
is ugly and a detriment); economic revitalization; maintained mobility; enhanced access; and authentic
and identify the corridor. Mr. Freedman went over the highlights of key community meetings and
workshops and explained what works or doesn't work today, and said that two -way traffic provides better
visibility and access and is generally better for business; and that one -way traffic accommodates through
traffic. He continued by explaining that the one -way traffic transition is confusing, the turn around time
is not good; business access and visibility is not good; and there are not enough north -south cross streets.
Concerning future circulation results, Mr. Freedman said that in the workshop with fourteen tables of
community members, only one table wanted to see one -way traffic; that thirteen wanted primarily two -
way on both Sprague and Appleway; and of those, seven wanted two way on the whole area, while six
wanted some combination. He said they came up with a series of recommendations based on those
workshops; that workshop participants envision Sprague with bike lanes, wider sidewalks and planter
strips, more pedestrian friendly and to have more and safer crosswalks.
Troy Russ then explained some of the existing conditions. By using select link analysis, Mr. Russ said
they determined where people are coming from who are on the corridor; and that the goal is to make sure
people can get through the entire corridor as fast as possible; that I -90 is a regional main street and
Sprague is our main street. He also explained that of the 1,945 getting off onto Appleway during peak
hours, only 80 are going completely through the corridor and getting out, and that is a very small
percentage. Moving west bound, he said that of those 27,600 passing through, only 110 are actually
coming to the end of Sprague; so therefore it is not the through street many think it is, but it is more of a
"main" street. He said that morning rush hour on Sprague west bound at Mullan has about 553 vehicles;
and Appleway during evening peak is about 1750; and that the level of service between Evergreen and
McDonald is a "C" (on a grading scale of A -F); but some intersections are "D" which some cities
consider acceptable. Mr. Russ further explained that the corridor circulation options to serve the land use
vision of a city center include: no change; extend Appleway one -way or the whole corridor into a one -
way couplet; or not complete the one -way couplet but convert Sprague to two -way and Appleway to two -
way even when extended and at the two way street switch it to one way — so half two ways and half one
way; or complete the conversion of the entire area from I -90 all the way down. He said that their
conclusion is that the best transportation strategy is a one way couplet or two way and not a hybrid, and
that their study showed that the difference in travel time was significant when a hybrid was involved. He
added that this study is not today's traffic but is future traffic, about 20 years out. There was some
discussion on Spokane Regional Transportation Commission's traffic model and the changes made over
time; and it was mentioned that Mr. Russ's figures are the figures from the highest traffic model.
Recommendations, stated Mr. Russ, are in the long run, building a two -way system is worth the
additional 60 seconds delay; it will strengthen businesses along the entire corridor; eliminate uncertainty
over the ultimate configuration of auto row. He then explained the five stages to implement the
recommendations, and concluded that the two -way conversion done in phases means that (1) two -way
Sprague to Argonne - Mullan can be done now; (2) two -way Sprague to I -90 and two -way Appleway to
Thierman can be done now; and the (3) roundabout at I -90 won't be needed until after 2021.
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Councilmember Gothmann brought up the survey done quite some time ago, wherein it was shown that
65% preferred the one -way. Mr. Gothmann said to change that perception there should be significant
reasons for us to go against that; that it could be justified by direct access from both Appleway and
Sprague, but he asked if putting the roundabout up front would that be more efficient. Mr. Russ said that
the roundabout won't be needed until about 2030 and that perhaps Washington State Department of
Transportation (WSDOT) could be engaged to assist.
Mr. Freeman added that surveys tend to be interpreted differently; when he came here he heard that 65%
preferred the one -way; but answers can change based on how the questions were posed; and in the
workshops, there was overwhelming response to two -way at this point, which tells him that at some point
some large percentage of the community says things have changed since that older survey was done; that
he is not clear about what the survey said about any strong preference one way or the other; and it is
highly unlikely that that large percentage would actually favor the one -way. Mr. Russ said that when this
survey was conducted, there was no conversation about having a town center or city center, so lots of
things have changed and the assumption going into this is different now.
Discussion ensued regarding traffic issues, including mention that Pines has the worst intersection; brief
discussion of one -way versus two ways; what to do first to get the most "bang for the buck "; timing
issues; changing the number of lanes; the use of the corridor for through traffic; multi -modal
transportation which includes automobiles, bikes (bike lanes), pedestrians, light rail or other rapid transit;
the desire to have an appealing city center; and the mention by Mr. Freedman that the businesses and city
center would be better served by two -way streets. Mr. Freedman added that so far he has not heard
anyone way they don't want this; and that they are hearing a level of comfort sufficient to suit them they
are on the right path.
Mayor Wilhite asked if there is a consensus to continue with this; and several Councilmembers nodded in
agreement, and Deputy Mayor Taylor voiced his agreement. Councilmember DeVleming, however,
stated that he feels this is a step backwards, but he realizes he is only one councilmember. Deputy Mayor
Taylor said that it appears it is six to one in favor of continuing. Mayor Wilhite said we will therefore
procee. She thanked Mr. Freedman and Mr. Russ for the presentation, and called for a recess at 6:51 p.m.
She resumed the meeting at 7:00 p.m.
Mr. Freeman continued the presentation by moving to land use development within the circulation of the
corridor. He gave an overview of previous meetings where the city center core was discussed, including
all that the core might entail such as mixed used buildings to include shop fronts, clear glass, a civic
building; and housing facing the road. He then moved to the question of where to start to in order to allow
growth to the area; and he discussed new development on Main Street, the possible location at U -city;
retail possibilities, and shorter walking distances. He explained the concept of using both sides of
University in order to get equal entitlements and to have the core area not look too long, but have it so it
invites walking; and that he recommends no on- surface parking. Things to consider, he explained, would
include which types of colors and materials to use; streetscapes; improved infrastructure; building to the
front; parking in the rear; and the concept of what the outside city center would be comprised of as
opposed to the core; and he said to keep in mind zoning by use and density; and to prohibit anything in
the City Center that would not promote the center; and to also focus on not having the area too congested.
He mentioned the need to have good lighting and turn lanes, outdoor seating, and street parking off to the
side of the road. He explained the concept of "neighborhood center retail: and defined "neighborhood
centers" (community commercial) as serving retail and services featuring contiguous small scale shop
fronts. He continued through the remainder of the slide presentation.
Further discussion /comments ensued and included how to pay for everything; business offices along the
corridor, some on Appleway but most on Sprague; keeping and marketing auto row with other uses such
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as restaurants; underground parking in the city core and whether the private sector would support that or
the City would provide it; more green space; future light rail; and a "gateway" to the city. Mr. Freedman
asked if is enough consensus to allow marketing of an auto row, but to keep in mind that the "gateway"
entrance to the City would be different from the actual physical entrance of auto row.
Councilmember Denenny said tonight's meeting gave him much to digest as Mr. Freedman consolidated
all the information he's heard over the last several months; and that all along he agrees with the way Mr.
Freedman has set up the city center. Regarding auto row, Councilmember Denenny said we are already
seeing development in communities where they are drawing dealers away and if we do not react
appropriately, we are likely going to lose that tax revenue. Councilmember Munson responded that he'd
like to move forward but would like more detailed information about the cross streets at north/south; and
Deputy Mayor Taylor stated that he would agree with those comments, but if we move to a two -way
system on the couplet, that would negate the need for mandatory through cross streets; that if you're
sticking with one ways on the couplet, you have to have more turn streets; in this case you can just put in
the additional blocks, and you'll still going have the two -way traffic on Sprague.
Mr. Freedman asked if there is a enough level of comfort with the key ideas in terms of the land use
development patterns they are recommending, to implement them in a series of detailed standards and
guidelines in the sub -area plan, with a list of every one with the traffic patterns as well as bring it back in
its usual form for the public hearing process through the Planning Commission. Mayor Wilhite asked for
consensus, and Deputy Mayor Taylor responded in the affirmative. Councilmember Munson responded
that there is still one sticking point, which is do we hire a consultant to look at the best way to buy the
land or not buy the land; and would that delay the overall plan. Mr. Freedman responded that that will not
change the plan; that we have to determine the desired outcome, because if we don't know what we want,
we might as well forget it. He stated that the sub -area plan's main job is to entitle the property, but it
doesn't tell where to entitle the property, or on which side of the street to build the city center. The plan
makes its own provision, he explained, so the sub -area plan allows you to get the plan incrementally or all
at once; as long as you know you want it, the kind and place, you're ready to act; he recommended talking
with property owners and ultimately pursue the property.
Councilmember Munson said to Mayor Wilhite that he feels we should move forward; and Mayor Wilhite
and Deputy Mayor Taylor vocally concurred. Mayor Wilhite said that we like this concept absolutely.
Mr. Freedman said he will work with the core team to draft a plan with all these parts for a hearing, and
bring it back in roughly a couple of months. Mayor Wilhite agreed.
Mayor Wilhite and council thanked Mr. Freedman and his assistants, and thanked everyone for attending.
The meeting attended at approximately 8:30 p.m.
ATTEST: r Diana Wilhite, Mayor
Christine Bainbridge, Ci Clerk
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