2024, 07-16 Study SessionMINUTES
City of Spokane Valley
City Council Study Session Meeting
Tuesday, July 16, 2024
Mayor Haley called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. The meeting was held in person in Council Chambers,
and also remotely via Zoom meeting.
Attendance:
Councilmembers
Pam Haley, Mayor
Tim. Hattenburg, Deputy Mayor
Rod Higgins, Councilmember
Laura Padden, Councilmember
Al Merkel, Councilmember
Jessica Yaeger, Councilmember
Ben Wick, Councilmember
Staff
John Hohman, City Manager
Erik Lamb, Deputy City Manager
Chelsie Taylor, Finance Director
Gloria Mantz, City Services Administrator
Kelly Konkright, City Attorney
Bill Helbig, Community & PW Director
Jill Smith, Communications Manager
Tony Beattie, Sr. Deputy City Attorney
Dave Ellis, Police Chief
Mike Basinger, Economic Dev. Director
John Bottelli, Parks & Rec Director
Jerrenry Clark, Traffic Engineering Manager
Virginia Clough, Legislative Policy Coordinator
Lori Barlow, Senior Planner
Morgan Koudelka, Sr. Administrative Analyst
Henry Allen, Senior Engineer
Patricia Rhoades, Deputy City Clerk
Chad Knodel, IT Manager
Marci Patterson, City Clerk
ROLL CALL: City Clerk Patterson called roll; all Councilmembers were present.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA It was moved by Deputy Mayor Hattenburg, seconded and unanimously
agreed to approve the agenda.
PROCLAMATION:
GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT OPPORTUNITY: After Mayor Haley explained the process, she
invited public comment. Mr. John Harding, Spokane Valley, Mr. Scott Buettner, Spokane Valley, Mr.
Brannen Reasor, Spokane Valley, Mr. Michael Pentico, Seattle, and Mr. Rick Freier, Spokane Valley all
provided comments on various topics.
ACTION ITEM:
1. Motion Consideration: ORioid Settlement- Kroger -- Tony Beattie
It was moved by Deputy Mayor Hattenburg and seconded to authorize the City of Spokane Valley to
participate in the settlement ti)ith Roger and authorize the City Manager or designee to finalize and execute
all documents necessary for participation. Mr. Beattie provided a brief overview of the settlement and
funding. Mayor Haley called for public comment; no comments were offered. Vote by acclamation: in favor:
unanimous. Opposed. none. Motion carried.
NON -ACTION ITEMS:
2. Admin Report: Solid Waste Contract Discussion — BiIl Helbig
Mr. Helbig opened the discussion with brief introductions for Sunshine Disposal and Spokane County as
they were the two providers that submitted a materials for the request for information for the future transfer,
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transport and disposal contract for the city. Mr. Helbig presented a PowerPoint that included a history of the
disposal contract, an overview of what the future contract would include, key elements in the request for
information that was reviewed, considerations for council regarding the services and the contract, and the
agreement rates and term for the contract. Council offered numerous questions that included fees, current
rates, total costs on services, and review of the number of FTE's. Mr. Mark Torre and Mr. Steve Wulf
presented an overview of their operation, costs associated with the operation and terms of the contract. They
also discussed the current contract with Sunshine Disposal. Council questioned the new rates, the CPI with
the contract, capitalization expenses involved with the contract, residential use of the facility, and the option
of terms for the contract. Mr. Kyle Twohig and Ms. Deb Geiger both with Spokane County Solid Waste met
to present details of their operation at the county. They reviewed the capital outlays, the term of the contract,
fees, and current rates. They detailed that the rates are ultimately approved by the Spokane County Board of
Commissioners on the recommendation of the Solid Waste Advisory Committee (SWAC). Council
questioned the use of the Waste to Energy Plant and if that facility was no longer used, what would that do
to the rates and ability to provide all the services. Council also discussed capital improvement projects and
costs for those projects for the facilities, any potential additional costs for services, the term of the contract
and services offered long term. Mr. Helbig closed the discussion noting that he would return at a future
meeting with motion consideration for contract services.
It was moved by Mayor Haley and seconded to take a breakfram 7: 47 p. in. to 8: 00 p. m. Vote by acclamation:
in favor: unanimous. Opposed: none. Motion carried.
3. Admin Report: Street Vacation STV-2024-0002 — Lori Barlow
Ms. Barlow discussed a detailed PowerPoint presentation that included the location of the proposed street
vacation at Hutchinson Rd - 60 x 130 ft and Riverside Ave - 40 x 170 ft., the land ownership details, the
overall process of the street vacation, and the agency comments and conditions required for the street
vacation. Ms. Barlow noted the Planning commission recommended 5 to 0 to the council that they approve
the vacation and that there were no comments were received during the comment period. Various agencies
provided comments. Utilities and service providers did request easements because they would still have
utilities in the right of way. Council discussed the requirements for the proposed street vacation and provided
consensus to move forward with the street vacation process.
4. Admin Report: Oversize and Overweight Vehicle Permit Terremy Clark
Mr. Clark opened the conversation with a PowerPoint presentation that included a definition of an oversized
load, the permitting process, background on the prior requirements, and what proposed permit code and fee
assessment would include. Staff reviewed the impact of the oversize and overweight vehicles to our current
infrastructure and reviewed what the other agencies currently had in place for such requirements. The
proposed code language - SVMC 9.30.075, Reference to RCW, equipment ratings, time -of -day limitations,
reference to Master fee schedule, application information, liability, insurance requirements, and
indemnification. Council discussed the need for the application and fees and that this process would codify
the process in order to protect our existing infrastructure. Council also discussed the ability to enforce the
proposed fees and regulations. Council provided consensus to return at a future meeting with an Ordinance
on the application and fees.
It was moved by Councilrnember Yaeger and seconded to extend the council meeting by 30 minutes. Vote by
acclamation: in favor: unanimous. Opposed: none. Motion carried
5. Admin Report: Grants Pass v. Johnson Update — Kell Konkri ht
City Attorney Konkright presented an update on the Grants Pass v. Johnson decision. Mr. Konkright noted
that as a result of the Court's decision, enforcement of public property camping bans in Washington no
longer violate the 8th Amendment if (1) the prescribed penalties themselves do not meet the definition of
cruel and unusual punishment, and (2) the ordinance does not criminalize persons merely for being homeless
— i.e. applies to all individuals engaging in the prohibited conduct regardless of whether or not they are
homeless. Mr. Konkright went on to explain the current provisions in the city code and defined some of the
violations for camping. Council discussed the current city code and what the fines are. Councilmember
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Merkel suggested an alternate option to have civil misdemeanors and allowing for a magistrate and public
defender and an officer acting as a public defender in the field to make an immediate determination. A point
of order was raised. Mayor Haley asked to speak to the point. Councilmember Higgins questioned if this
was the proper place on the agenda for this topic. Mayor Haley allowed City Attorney I{onkright to answer
the question as to whether or not the alternate option is even a feasible option. Mr. Konkright noted that the
option would be extremely challenging and if you are speaking of removing people it would require taking
custody of them and that generally that involves due process issues, but: not researching the issue it would
have some constitutional challenges right away. Councilmembers questioned the rights of the people in that
circumstance as well as the cost of the having all of the individuals "in the field" working and it would not
be possible for an officer to act as a prosecutor. There were many concerns about the alternate option. Mr.
Hohman suggested an update on the current methods of assisting those that are camping on city property
and reviewing what is being done and offered to those that are on city property.
6. Advance Agenda — Mayor Haley
Councilmember Merkel requested looking into a reserve force for our police officers. Councilmember
Yaeger noted that SCOPE is also looking for assistance and that we may not be able to find anyone if we
put this forward. Councilmember Padden noted that perhaps Chief Ellis should weigh in on the topic. There
was not consensus to move forward with the item.
Councilmember Merkel Proposed assigning priority to advanced agenda items. Mr. Hohman stated that it
would be an administrative item to handle. There was not consensus to move that request forward.
Councilmember Merkel wanted to pass an Ordinance to require public buildings in the city to have flags for
the public to use for meetings. There was not consensus to move that request forward.
COUNCIL COMMENTS
Councilmember Merkel stated that he was upset that he was not called on for the homelessness topic. There
was a point of order raised. Mayor Haley asked to speak to the point. Councilmember Higgins stated that
Councilmember Merkel is continuing to campaign and to please cease and desist. Mayor Haley stated that
she agreed and that she would like to continue on. Councilmember Merkel continued to speak over Mayor
Haley. Mayor Haley noted that she would adjourn the meeting if he continued.
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
Mr. Hohman noted that the city is continuing work. on the Pines project and it is moving forward and will
continue to move to the construction phase of the project. There will be further updates on that with our
Federal Lobbyist. Mr. Hohman also noted that he attended CRAVE and it was a successful event and that
we had citizens attending from at least six various states. City Manager Hohman also stated that he was
troubled to hear that Councilmember Merkel was in an active construction zone. Mr. Hohman went on to
note that it posed danger to not only Councilmember Merkel, but also to the city and the workers in the
construction area. There are numerous safety concerns being in an active construction zone without the
proper training and safety gear that would be required. Mr. Hohman asked that unless you are authorized to
be in the active construction zone, that you stay out of the area.
It was moved by Deputy Mayor Hattenburg, seconded to adjourn. Vote by acclamation: in favor: Mayor
Haley, Deputy Mayor Hattenburg, Councilmember Yaeger, Higgins, Wick, and Padden. Opposed:
Councilrrrerrrber Merkel. Motion carried. The meeting was adjourned at 9:17 p.m.
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Marci P t e-rson, City Clerk
Parrs Haley, Mayor
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Questions to Open Dialog with
Sunshine Disposal & Recycling and Spokane County Solid Waste.
Questions have been segregated into the sections that will be discussed and followed.
It is anticipated that these questions will be used as building blocks for discussions.
Sunshine Questions
County. Questions
Term
There is a significant jump when going
You've indicated a 5-year Interlocal
from a 5-Year Contract to a 10-Year
Agreement. Is this the standard term
contract. is this because of the
for other agencies that have joined the
improvements needed at the transfer
regional solid waste system?
station?
Is Sunshine willing to extend the current
What if the City wanted to go for a
contract for 3 years?
longer or shorter term?
Rates
The rates show an increase from the 5-
Are the County Commissioners solely
year rate to the 10-year rate. Is this to
responsible for setting the disposal
account for improvements needed at
rates for the Regional Solid Waste
the transfer station?
System?
Do you only collect the 3.6% refuse tax
Does County staff or the Solid Waste
on self -haulers only?
Advisory Committee (SWAC) have any
influence on the rates?
Do you collect the refuse tax on
Does the $3.00 Environmental Fee per
garbage from curbside collection that
vehicle get charged to commercial
WM does?
vehicles, like curbside collectors, as
well?
In the rates you provided, there will not
It is the City's understanding that the
be any change on the minimum rate for
3.6% refuse tax is not charged by the
self -haulers?
County on self -haulers or curbside
collectors. Then, how is the refuse tax
handled?
Since the County covers the refuse tax,
do you know if WM will stop collecting
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Sunshine Questions
County Questions
the tax from curbside collection
accounts if the City chooses the County
for disposal?
Rate Adjustments
Are you still willing to tie rate
Historically, how significant have the
adjustments to a percentage of the
disposal rate increases been annually?
Consumer Price Index (CPI)?
How does County staff and the Solid
Waste Advisory Committee have
influence on the County Commissioners
for rate adjustments?
The County currently has some of its
waste going to the City of Spokane's
Waste to Energy facility. With the
recent news that the facility may face
steep climate tax change, what effect
will this have on County rates?
Transfer Station .Capacity
Does the current transfer station have
Does the current transfer station have
the capacity to support the City into the
the capacity to support the City into the
future?
future?
What type of facility improvements are
Before the City separated from the
needed to serve the City into the
Regional Solid Waste System, there
future?
were queuing backups from your
transfer station onto Kiernan and onto
Sullivan Road. Do you anticipate these
types of backups again?
Are future capital costs figured into the
rates you provided?
Continuity of Service
This is the first time the County itself
will be operating transfer stations. Why
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Sunshine Questions
County Questions
did Commissioners move away from
having a contractor operation the
stations?
What hiccups doe the County anticipate
in taking over operations?
Other l Administrative
Fee
The Administrative Fee, as we
understand it, is imposed by the City
through the disposal contract and you
collect it for us. Are you still willing to
collect the fee for the City?
The City collects an Administrative Fee
through the disposal contract to help
fund our program. It is correct that the
County doesn't have the mechanisms
to collect a fee that is remitted to the
City?
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Marc'r Patterson
From: Brannen Reasor <brannenreasor@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2024 1:14 PM
To: Council Meeting Public Comment
Subject: July 16 council meeting - Grants Pass vs Johnson
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intend to come and speak at the meeting tonight, but I am sending this in case I do not make it to the
meeting.
1. July 16, 2024
2. Brannen Reasor
3. Spokane Valley
4. Grants Pass vs. Johnson
Good Evening,
I am a resident of Spokane Valley, and I am writing today to discuss the Grants Pass vs.Johnson decision.
It is my view that the Supreme Court decision on this matter is immoral and only seeks to criminalize
homelessness. Being without a home is a position that I would not wish upon anyone, and those in that
position deserve their dignity and our help, not further criminalization.
It's clearthat this council views the decision as immediately actionable for the city's approach to citizens
existing on our public property. I would ask that this council reconsider this justification as its use only
stands to tear down those strugglingthe most in our community. If someone is sleeping on public land it
is not because they wish to, and arrestingthem, throwing out their stuff and slapping them with a fine
they can't afford to pay, is not going to help our neighbors who have been hurt the most by the cost of
living crisis we are in today. This approach only stands as a way to kick those who are down.
I know the city has a homeless task force and that is good. The city should empower them to handle and
help our homeless neighbors without fining them and placing them in jail. Help should be offered and not
forced; mental health care, rehab centers, and housing should be readily available and offered, empathy
should be used in all situations, if someone refuses a shelter bed, there is a reason, maybe it's because
they've been robbed in the shelter, maybe it's because they have to be clean, and they aren't yet,
whatever the reason jail and fines are not the solution and will never be the solution, we need to
approach our community members with compassion, not force.
I do not wish for the parks in our city to be free of tents because any time one is placed it is trashed and
the person using it is taken to jail and slapped with a fine, I want our parks to be clean because the city
takes care of its citizens, builds them up, and helps them when they are down on their luck.That is how
you build a community.
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